What is a 40-mile ride? Semantics, suggestions, and many photos

It cannot be LD (Limited Distance) because LD’s must be between 25 and 35 miles. But ENDURANCE RIDES must be at least 50 miles. Although the AERC rule book is fairly clear about how to round distances above 50 (to 5 five), and I think we can safely round 47.5 miles up to 50, what about 40 miles? 45?

To those endurance riders distance riders AERC members people who follow the AERC Facebook page,  a recent brouhaha about whether certain rides over technically terrain could be counted as endurance even though they were probably less than 50 miles will be familiar… even if only because it caused a flare-up of the endemic Who-is-worthy-of-the-endurance-title-discussion disease.

 

Yes, on the basis of an obscure duck-ride-debate (have I even got that right? I’m too new to know), someone poked the semantics bear in the AERC Facebook page and a fierce debate ensued between three broad camps:

  1. Inclusive: People who ride “limited distance” (25 to less than 50 miles) can claim to be endurance riders even though only 50+ mile rides are technically “endurance” rides.  It’s all good, it’s all endurance.
  2. Exclusive (in all meanings of the word): You ain’t an endurance rider if you don’t ride at least 50 miles, and you’d better not claim to be. It’s just a sign of the times that the young ‘uns think 25 miles is something special.
  3. Waffling: (e.g.) Anybody who rides in AERC riders can call her/himself an endurance rider, but you really haven’t ridden endurance until you’ve completed a 50. People trying to stomp on their elitist tendencies.

I have ridden two 25 mile LD rides on my own mare (pulled in the second due to lameness).  I have ridden one 50 mile endurance ride thanks to the generosity of someone else allowing me to ride her mare.  I have also volunteered at three rides, including two night rides… I think staying up all night should qualify me as an endurance volunteer at the very least.

 

All of us who endure the ugly Facebook AERC debates deserve a medal for online-discussion-temper-control endurance.

But I am not sure I have paid my dues so not gonna call myself an “endurance rider.” Yet. I will say that as soon as I have the time and money to get another appropriate horse, I am going to be doing endurance.  I’ll start doing it on the first ride and continue doing it until the horse retires.  In my mind, the first 5-10 mile training ride counts, and the goal-100 mile endurance ride, hopefully Tevis- will count in even the exclusivists’ minds. The reason I wouldn’t yet call myself an endurance rider is that I personally feel I need more endurance–and by this I mean, training for endurance, whatever the distance–experience and knowledge.

 

I’ve been thinking about this over the past week, not allowing myself to post on the AERC page or write this blog (because weekdays, workdays, no procrastinating allowed), but now it’s Saturday and I’d like to air some worries and a suggestion.

Worries

It’s bad PR and could discourage participation in any AERC event

This kind of argument (because it’s not really a debate, and it’s not civil enough to be called a discussion) is potentially very damaging to the AERC.  Nasty arguments happen with more frequency on the AERC page than on any of the many other equine fora I am a member of.

The same old debates (e.g., barefoot vs steel; when you can safely start a horse… see my funny blogpost) take place place all over the web, not only on Facebook, where there are multiple horse groups, but on places such as Chronicle of the Horse, Horse and Hound, etc.  But somehow, these other groups manage to have the same discussions with a lot less acrimony. This is probably in part because endurance riders have a lot of winter downtime and a side effect of riding withdrawal is crankiness, but that’s no excuse.
In other words, AERC page denizens: It’s not necessary to be nasty. We all do it sometimes, but maybe if we all tried, it would happen less often in public.

The thing is, how is AERC going to increase membership (or replace losses with gains) if it presents such an ugly face to the world?

By far the most damaging posts are the elitist “You can’t say you are doing endurance if you don’t ride at least 50 miles” and “in the old days people were tough not like these young LD pansies” ones.

YES this comes off as elitist and snobby and belittling.

If you want to point out that only rides that are at least 50 miles are “endurance rides” as per AERC rule book, find a nicer way to do it.

 

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It could encourage people to ride too far and/or too fast, too soon

One of my favorite sayings: “Any horse can do 25 miles.”

(even my boyfriend has said this to me, and he has cutting horses!! I’d like to see him do an LD!)

And it’s true, if you change it just a little bit: “Any sound horse can do 25 miles if given enough time and ridden appropriately for its condition.

This translates into the simple fact that not everyone can ride a horse in a 25 mile LD ride in the time frame allowed (six hours – hold), at least, not without training for it… unless of course the horse is already in shape in its current job. I know that most of the racehorses I trained could easily have finished 25 miles in under 5 hours with no additional training, but they did 2-4 miles trotting/cantering/galloping plus another 2-3 miles walking under saddle 6 days a week.  And that’s not counting the hours of hand-walking. A working ranch horse could probably do it too. But most people do not have racehorses in training or working ranch horses.

Still, it is true that most sound horses could do a 25-mile LD within the time frame, if properly conditioned and ridden. And that’s a great thing! I love it when experienced riders encourage newbies on the AERC page by telling them to use the horse they have and love, at least at the beginning.

Unfortunately the “any horse can do 25 miles” is often used in the context of “and therefore 25 miles is no biggie and most definitely not endurance so please don’t put it in the same bucket as ENDURANCE rides.”

What I worry more about is that some people might be inclined to do a 50 before their horses are ready just so they can join the club. Fortunately most people pay  more attention to the precepts behind AERC–caring for your horse, finishing fit to continue, yes, to finish is to win–than to the allure of being part of the exclusive endurance club.

Seriously, what does happen to rides that fall between 37. 5 (assuming we can round down to 35) and 47.5 miles?

Given the rules, this means no rides can be (approximately) 40 or 45 miles.

Now, if land and its use (and ride manager time) were unlimited, this really wouldn’t be an issue. I can see the rationale behind a gap dividing limited distance and full rides, and there really isn’t a meaningful training difference between 35 & 40 and 45 & 50.

But if we are going to be picky about distance precision–something we now have the ability to do–then perhaps we ought to give ride managers more flexibility in distance and course design.

 

What then do we do with the 40-45 miles rides?

Middle distance? Inconvenient-course-measurement-distance? Almost-endurance?

If it weren’t so much work, there could be a new scoring system that handicaps according to difficulty (some equation of distance, climate, and technicality that handicaps for extreme weather conditions and difficult terrain).  Because there is no doubt in my (admittedly endurance-novice) mind that it is not the same to ride 50 miles on smooth, flat terrain as it is to ride 50 miles through rocks and/or mud or with thousands of feet of elevation change.  (I compare riding in my native Sierra Nevada to riding in my current home state of mostly-flat Oklahoma).  Or 50 miles in a dry climate to 50 miles in extreme humidity (again, foothills of the Sierra Nevada to Oklahoma, and those really aren’t the greatest extremes even in this country).

 

I don’t know, and I wouldn’t care, whether 40 miles would need to be limited distance or “endurance” or something in between. But then, I don’t have the weight of history-with-endurance on my shoulders and opinions. I do think that the more flexibility ride managers have, the better.

A Suggestion:

On page 11 of the 2017 AERC rule book (I don’t know where my more recent rule book is, but it’s probably the same page; it’s page five in the online book), in the section devoted to Junior Riders (which may need revision at some point, but that’s another topic), the first sentence reads:

“10. All Junior riders in both full and Limited Distance rides….”

This sentence suggests to me a nice solution to the LD vs endurance non-issue:

Why not call EVERY AERC-sanctioned ride endurance and distinguish between “full” and “limited distance” rides? There could be a “middle distance” category for 40-45 mile rides (or they could be subsumed into LD or Full, or prohibited, though I believe that would be foolish).

For some people and horses, 25-35 miles may qualify as true endurance because of the physical limitations (or training time constraints, or whatever) they bring to the endeavor. For those for whom 35 miles is a walk in the park, well, maybe we need a more august name than “full.”  All sorts of, erm, amusing, options are occurring to me (The Real Deal; Heritage–maybe this needs more qualifiers–; Original… ok stopping now). Others may have much more appropriate ideas.

And others may hate the entire proposal, but that’s okay, feel free to comment.

& Pictures galore!

 

Because I got lots and lots of great pictures on the AERC page, I will put all of them below (the ones I haven’t already used above).  Many people riding many different types of horses in different distances, different terrains, different states, countries, continents. All enjoying their horses.

 

Thanks to everyone who contributed a photo, I’ve captioned with the information you gave me, and included all watermarks.

 

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And even more pictures, added June 18:

June 19:

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Photo credit Trinity Nelzen

Photo credit Trinity Nelzen

Resources:

Go the Distance: The Complete Resource for Endurance Horses

Endurance 101: a gentle guide to the sport of long-distance riding

Racing vs riding and the US Endurance debate

To finish is to win… Right?

Well, not really. To finish is to accrue miles. To win is to complete the distance first (and be fit to continue).

Endurance rides are timed events; there are winners and placing, inevitably. In other words, they are races. But not everyone who participates in an endurance ride (race) is racing,  or competing with others to see who is the first (second, third…) to complete the designated distance.

For those who are blissfully unaware of the rather ugly in-fighting going on in the American Endurance Ride Conference (AERC’s Facebook page), the conditions of endurance races in the Middle East (flat, hot, and fast) have triggered a strong anti- FEI sentiment. There are many people who state that they refuse to join AERC because they disapprove of FEI (and AERC remains affiliated with the USEF and FEI); others say they will not renew their membership if AERC does not disassociate itself from both.

This blog is not about my opinion of the FEI or USEF. I have been a member of both; my USEF membership dates from when it was AHSA and I was around nine years old… my number has very few digits ;-). Maybe I will address that issue at some point. At the moment I want to talk about racing vs. riding, because many participants in the vitriolic Facebook AERC debates cite racing as the problem (when they are against FEI).

Claiming that racing is the issue–that it causes the abuses seen in the Middle East and is somehow anathematic to the purpose of AERC–seems to me to be mistaken and naive. It also implies an assumption about people who do race horses and are neither apologetic or ashamed of doing so.

**Just to be clear, I am speaking as someone who lived and breathed race horses for years (Thoroughbred and Arabian flat racing) after having grown up on a horse ranch, riding and showing Morgans.  I joined AERC for the first time about three years ago. My mare was chased by dogs and suffered an acute sweeney injury a year ago; I still renewed my AERC membership, and I hope to be able to afford another endurance horse in the near future. In the meantime, I have enjoyed the status of relative newbie and observer in the AERC online community (as well as volunteering at some rides and riding at others when I have been able).

The assumption that appears to underlie the anti-racing statements is that people who race horses treat them poorly, and are less concerned about their welfare (compared, one assumes, to people who “just ride to finish”).  There is so much wrong with this assumption that it’s difficult to know where to start, but I’ll list the main problems.

  1. To win a race, any race, your horse needs to be able to give its best performance. That is, it needs to be sound, healthy, confident, and happy. It needs to be eating and drinking well (even more true for endurance).  It needs to be very well-cared for.
  2. People who race horses and want to win pay close attention to their horses’ welfare… their soundness, their diet, their behavior. I have never seen such assiduous attention to soundness and diet as at racetracks.
    Of course, there are bad people who race horses, and try to cover up injuries with drugs, management, hope, and prayer… but the same thing happens with show horses.
    The difference is that with many show horses, you can get away with continuing on top of many types of minor injury. You can’t do that with any form of racing (I include endurance).
  3. Specific to endurance: you don’t need to have your horse in tip-top condition to finish an endurance race or LD. You can go slowly. You can condition in the race (this happens in flat racing too). But if you want to win, your horse needs to be fit to do the distance at a faster pace. This means you will have had to pay greater attention to conditioning, feeding, and soundness.
    Whenever you are training for a timed distance event, the faster (and further) you want to go, the more care you must take. I am a runner. I can run a slow 5K any day of the year, even if I’ve been sitting around eating cheese and drinking wine for six months. I can’t run 10K in under an hour without a steady training regime and attention to running shoes, soundness issues. etc.

Would people be more likely to abuse horses if there were money in endurance? (and we unabashedly called it racing)?

Probably. Money attracts unscrupulous behavior. Just about any competition does, whether it’s a a medal, fame, or dollars to be won. But I doubt there would be a big difference, as long as the regulations and controls kept pace. Not that I am advocating monetary prizes (although it was suggested as a way to increase membership). I certainly do not believe simply calling a spade a spade (or a timed event a race) will lead to abuse.

That’s where the naivete comes in.  I’ve only been to a few rides, but I can assure you, there were people racing, at both LD and endurance distances.  In other words, there were people riding in a hurry in order to be the first to finish. These people canter up behind others on the trail and pass in narrow places… or they canter towards oncoming traffic and slip around even on narrow trails. I would bet that happens in almost all endurance “rides.”

And I am entirely okay with it. Someday, when I have a fit horse, I will also try to be the first to finish. But to do that, I will have to pay close attention to the conditioning and alimentary needs of my horse. I will have to know how to pace it to ensure it is not only fit to continue that day, but in the next ride (race). I will not “race” a horse that is not prepared to go at the requisite speed safely.

I’ll probably fail sometimes. I know that happened, to my enduring sadness, with racing Thoroughbreds. Things do happen. Especially with horses, they can injure themselves in padded stalls.

In fact, a horse can also get injured when trail riding, or taking a very slow approach to endurance. That has happened to me as well.

Think of all those dearly beloved show horses with hideously shod hooves, or slight limps, or nearly obese bodies. (All those overweight pets and horses, doomed to early deaths due to excess love and ignorance).

All that said, I do appreciate the AERC emphasis on “to finish is to win.” There are many people doing endurance (and/or LDs) who have very little horse background. It is better to err on the side of caution, especially when there is no formal training mechanism or certification process (flat racing is full of licensing rules, certifications, oversight, and controls).

This does not mean that racing = abuse. It simply does not.

Those of you who worry about racing (especially racing in the Middle East and its connection with FEI)… there are so many abuses closer to home.  Overfeeding, and underfeeding.  Neglect.  Abysmal lack of farriery oversight. Overbreeding. If you really need something to work to improve. And of course, the (flat, and for that matter hurdles and steeplechasing) racing world does have problems, just like every other equine industry.

It just doesn’t make much sense to me that people fight about whether endurance rides are races, because whatever you want to call them, there are participants who race… and those who “simply” ride.  Both types end up with pulls at times; both types result in injured and retired animals.. because both involve horses and humans.

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